Idli Dosa Batter Recipe | How to ferment idli batter | Tips & Tricks for making Idli Dosa Batter
Learn the easy & simple recipe to make Idli Dosa Batter, along with tips and tricks to grind using a wet grinder and ferment to perfection. Applying all these techniques will yield soft , spongy idli’s and also perfect thin crisp dosas!
Idlis and dosas are probably the most popular south Indian breakfast foods. Though its much easier to get ready made fermented batter from stores, making it at home is what we prefer as its not only economical but also healthy. I have my share of struggles in perfecting it during my early days when in US but once you figure that the right proportion, measures & tricks it works easy peasy!
When it comes to the batter, it is all about the ingredients, their proportion, consistency, and to an extent, the weather. Here is a foolproof idli and dosa batter recipe, you can make and enjoy perfect soft idlis and crispy dosas any time at home.
In this recipe, you will learn the following
- The ingredients and proportions for idli/dosa batter (and possible substitutions)
- Consistency of batter and fermentation tips
- The perfect dosa pan and tips on how to care for it
- The secret to soft, fluffy idlis every time
- Variations of dosa and idli
Idli Dosa Batter Recipe – How to Ferment Idli Batter – Tips & Tricks for making Idli Dosa Batter
Ingredients
- 4 cups Idli Rice
- 1 cup Whole Skinned Black Gram
- 1 tsp Fenugreek seeds
- 4 tsp Coarse Kosher Salt crystal salt / rock salt
Instructions
Rinse & Soak
- If you plan to use the water in which the rice & dal is soaked, then rinse rice & dal separately and then soak in enough water. This is very nutritious and also helps with fermentation during cold season.
- First, soak Idli rice separately in enough water. Soak Whole skinned black gram / Ullundhu / Urad Dal with fenugreek seeds in enough water in another bowl. A minimum of 5 to 6 hours of soaking time is required. Overnight works too.
Rinse & Drain
- Rinse and drain if you plan to use regular water if not reserve the water drained from the rice & dal.
Grind
- First, grind black gram / urad / ullundu along with fenugreek seeds in a wet grinder using about 1/2 cup water. It might use about 1.5 cups of water approximately to grind. Add little by little every 5 minutes.
- Grind for about 20 to 30 minutes or until its light and fluffy.
- Test to see if its ground to the right consistency. Add a little of batter to a bowl filled with plain water. Batter should not sink nor melt but has to float. It should be not sticky & light. This is the right texture & consistency and once that is attained, transfer the batter.
- Second, grind the idli rice adding 1 cup water. This should drink about 2 to 2.5 cups of water for total of 4 cups of rice. Add little by little and grind for about 15 minutes.
- Test to see if this has reached the right stage. The ground rice batter should feel like fine rava like texture. When pressed between finger should mash up well. This is the right texture & consistency and once that is attained, add this to the ground Urad batter.
Mix
- Add salt preferably rock salt / crystal salt / coarse kosher salt / Kallu uppu. This salt is free of iodine and other chemicals. Helps with fermentation.
- Mix well using your hands. Warmth of your hands will help to ferment, so do wash your hands and then mix the batter.
How to ferment
- Cover the batter with lid and place in a warm spot for 12 hours to ferment. (Applies only if you live in a warmer climate)
- If you live in a colder place, then preheat oven to 350 F and switch off! You may keep the oven light on if you wish for added warmth.
- Keep the batter inside the oven to ferment. In summer months it should ferment in 8 to 10 hours and in winter it might take up to 15 hours.
- The batter will rise once it ferments. Always use a wide big pot to ferment the batter as it might need extra room when it rises. It will definitely rise for 2 to 3 inches from its original place almost doubling in quantity.
- After fermentation, the batter will rise with tiny air pockets. This is an indication that its fermented well and is ready for making idli or dosa.
- If the batter ferments too much, it might smell and taste sour. This batter won't last long and will continue to over ferment with time. Make sure to finish soon by making Uttappams.
To make Idli
- Do not mix the batter too much, gently mix and pour a ladleful of batter scooped out of the pan. Undisturbed tiny air-bubbles in the batter helps in making soft spongy idlis. Steam cook for 10 minutes over high medium flame. Switch off and let in rest in the pan for few minutes before you scoop out. Taking them immediately will result in torn idlis with rugged top and sides. Making idlis the traditional way… using light cotton cloth ”thunni idlis” are always the best.
To make Dosa
- Mix the batter with little water and bring the consistency slightly thin. Adding about 1/8 teaspoon of sugar to your dosa batter makes nice red golden color dosas. This is purely optional. Preferably use an iron pan to make dosas.
- Scoop some batter the swirl over the hot tawa and drizzle some oil. Once it turns brown on one side, flip to the other side and cook for few seconds. Flip again, fold and serve.
How to store batter
- If you plan to store the batter for more than 5 days then do not add salt nor ferment. Just refrigerate the ground batter which should stay good for 10 days. Bring it room temperature, add salt and then ferment when required.
- Fermented Batter stays good in refrigerator for a week
Possible mistakes & fixes.
- If the batter doesn't ferment well – idli won't come soft and will look flat after steaming. Dosa will be very chewy and white. Add little baking soda or eno to rise it a bit and try to finish the batter soon
- If the add too much water while grinding urad dal – idli will have a shiny feel / slimy with rubbery texture. Dosas will be very chewy. Using less water will yield a thick sticky batter will make the idlis go hard after steaming and dosa will be hard and batter will stick more to the pan. This will still work for dosa but trying making thick kal dosa.
- If you add to much water while grinding rice will make the batter runny and the water will separate and settle at the bottom after fermentation. The batter will still work for making dosa but idlis will look very thin and slimy. Grinding rice with less water, will yield a very tight batter that will result in hard idlis and cardboard like dosas.
- All these not so good batter can be used for making rava paniyaram (just mix some with rava, soak and then make kuzhi paniyaram ) punugulu (using grated veggies) bonda (using rava and veggies) or wheat dosa (mixing wheat flour)
Wet Grinder or Mixie
- Using a wet stone grinder will yield best results. Large quantity can be made plus the batter will be ground evenly without too much heat.
- Mixie / Blender will still work but the texture and batter consistency will look a little different. If using a regular blender or mixer jar to grind… refrigerate or freeze the jar ahead of time to chill the empty jar and then use it for grinding to avoid overheating of the motor. Or use ice cold water to grind the batter. Too much heat while grinding will result in killing the bacteria and the batter won't ferment well.
- Only a little can be ground each time and need to adjust water quantity to keep the blades running.
- To yield soft idlis use little soaked aval / poha while grinding rice.
Measurements: Whatever cup you use, its always 4 cups Idli rice : 1 cup Urad dal : 4 tsp salt. May include few additions listed below to boost the fermenting process and yield better quantity and quality.
1/2 tsp of fenugreek seeds helps to yield softer idlis.
2 tsp of cooked rice helps with better fermentation.
2 tsp of pre-soaked poha / aval helps for making softer idlis.
2 tsp of puffed rice (pori) can also help for making softer idlis.
Wash and rinse the rice and urad dal.
Soak rice in enough water, add fenugreek seeds to urad dal and soak them separately with enough water. Let these soak overnight.
Tips to ferment the idli batter perfectly
1.Using the water in which its soaked – Next day, Do not rinse or wash rice and dal. Drain the water in which it was soaked and keep it aside. This water will be used for grinding the rice and dal. This way the fermentation will work effectively.
2. Grind rice separately – Grind the rice separately using a grinder. If using cooked rice or poha add along with the rice and grind. Suggested time for grinding rice would be less than 15 minutes. Add water little by little (1 to 1 and 1/4 cup approx) and grind to a thick batter. This batter should not be too soft, you should feel the texture like Bombay rava.
Ok… When it comes to rice varieties, there are many types. Some of the common types are fully boiled rice, par boiled rice and plain white raw rice.
(a) White raw rice: These are often termed as “white” or “polished” rice, This variety is made by removing the outer husk and the layers of bran are milled away until the grain becomes white. (Ponni Pacha arisi in Tamil) This variety is mainly used for preparing adai and cooked for plain consumption.
(b) Parboiled rice: Parboiled rice is treated with a special steam-pressure process before milling. The grain is soaked for 4 to 5 hours, steamed, dried and then milled to remove the outer hull. Water-soluble vitamins and mineral salts are spread throughout the grain, making it the most nutritious. Because of this special steaming process the rice tends to look pale yellow with brown spots. Good quality par boiled rice, which is specially processed for making idlis is sold in the name of ” Idli Rice”, so this variety can be used for making idlis.
(c) Fully Boiled rice: Here it is made the same way as par boiled rice except for the soaking time. It needs to be soaked for 8 to 10 hours before steaming. (Puzhungal arisi in Tamil)
You can use both varieties, idlis turn slightly pale yellow when made with fully boiled rice(Puzhungal arisi), taste doesn’t vary much.
3. Grind Urad dal separately – Next grind Urad dal along with fenugreek seeds to a very soft consistency. Add about (1 to 1 and 1/2 cup approx). Texture of the batter should be silky soft, let it grind for more than 20 minutes.
What Urad dal to use -Use only Whole Urad dal for making idli dosa batter, split urad does not yield good results plus the quantity will be very less.
4. Mixing with Salt – Take a big vessel combine, ground rice, urad dal batter along with salt. Mix well with your hands.
(a) warmth of your hands will help to ferment, so do wash your hands and mix the batter.
(b) Always use Kosher salt – Kallu Uppu which is free of iodine and other chemicals. This really helps to ferment and fluff up the batter.
5. Keep in a warm placed, covered – Once mixing cover with a loose lid, it needs to breathe… keep in a warm place in your kitchen
(a) warm microwave works perfectly.
(b) lightly warm up your convention oven, switch off and then keep the batter in it overnight.
(c) keep it close to vent during winter months helps the warm air circulating help with fermenting.
(d) Cover with a thick kitchen towel of baby blanket.
6. Adding few Chillies – add a couple of dry red chili or green chilli to the ground batter…. the heat from the chillies can speed up fermentation.
Next day the batter should rise almost 2 to 3 inches high with tiny bubbles. Do not mix right away. Take the portion which you want to use that day and store the rest in a different container undisturbed. Store in refrigerator for up to a week. Do not add salt, if you intend to keep the batter for long time.
For Idli batter : Do not mix the batter, pour a ladleful of batter scooped out of the pan. Undisturbed tiny air-bubbles helps in making soft spongy idlis. Steam cook for 10
minutes over high medium flame, switch off and let in rest in the pan for few minutes before you scoop out. Taking them immediately will result in torn idlis with rugged top and sides. Making idlies the traditional way… using light cotton cloth”thunni idlis” are always the best.
For Dosai batter: Mix the batter with little water and bring the consistency slightly thin. Adding about 1/8 teaspoon of sugar to your dosa batter makes nice red golden color dosas. This is optional if you make dosa in iron pan,it will automatically come in that color. Non stick dosa tawa doesn’t yield good color, so use sugar when using this pan. Proceed making dosais.
Using best quality Idli rice / boiled rice is the trick to make nice soft white idlis. Par-boiled / Puzhungal arisi yields soft but light pale white idlis. Split or whole urad can
be used, usually whole black urad dal with skin (Karuppu ullundu) yields more quantity and also helps for softer idlis, except This variety has be washed many times to remove the skin.
Fermenting using oven is only for friends living in cold climatic conditions. Rest can just allow it to ferment at room temperature.
These are two gadgets that i use for grinding…
Elgi Ultra Dura+ 1.25-Litre Wet Grinder, Purple
Preethi Plus Mixer Grinder (old model though) I very rarely use my mixer for grinding… as the motor may get heated up and its life will end soon 🙂 Once in while i use the mixer … use ice water for grinding. My personal experience… though many say mixer idlies turn out great but still there is always a difference that i see!
78 Comments
Hi Dear,
Nice effort use full guide with tips..thanks for your effort..
Thank you Sir!
Hi please help me. I am making idli dosa batter since long and has been grinding it in wet grinder and sunce then getting fluffy idlies and crispy dosas. I take-
1 cup urad dal (as shown in the above pic by you?
3 cups of idli rice
Handful of poha
Half to 1 cup of cooked rice.
Now since last 2 times my idli is not puffing up and its too sticky to eat (not at all an idli actually) and not even able to make a dosa becoz of stickiness. Though it ferments in a very hood manner. I add salt to the batter after grinding. I grind rice for 30 mins and dal for 45 mins everytime. Don’t know what’s wrong since last 2 times. Do I have to throw the whole lot now?
Jasmine,
The above proportion mentioned by you is totally different from the one mentioned in recipe. For good idli dosa… 1 cup urad dal for 4 cups of idli rice with few teaspoons of the poha or cooked rice. But you are using too much of cooked rice and urad which could make your batter very sticky.
I use the above proportion to make idli & dosa, sometimes it may take longer to ferment in winter but other than that never seen any complaints.
Make sure you use less urad dal and cooked rice in your recipe and also grind rice to fine rava consistency and your urad to a soft fluffy consistency. (Follow the above instruction for how long to grind each)Give it atleast 10 hours to ferment in a warm place and you will never have to throw your batter again. Good luck and thanks for visiting my page.
I’m trying to purchase a grinder. Could you please help me? Which one do you use?
What are the best grinders you think are available in the market?
Mahi,
I have only used Ultra dura so far and I think thats the best. Been using it since 2003 and no complaints and also ideal for a family of 4 plus its table top. It does come with attachments for for coconut grating which I never use because it was very difficult to handle. But for idli dosa vada batter it works great. Here is a link http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Dura-Grinder-Kneader-110-volt/dp/B00AFR0ILE
Thanks and good luck with your purchase.
What happens if the dal and rice are ground together?! Is there a way to fix it for idli?
Hi I m using idli rice and urad dhal in the ratio 3:1 since my urad dhal is low in quality. And also I m adding poga and methi seeds.my idli turns out soft and fluffy but it is sticky inside..could you please suggest me what is the reason for that?
Dear Valli,
Idlis turn sticky
1. If you add too much water while grinding urad dal.
2. If your batter fermentation is not complete.
3. If you are using split urad instead of whole skinned urad dal.
4. If you use more urad dal to rice ratio.
even if anyone of the above happens then there are chances for the idlis to turn sticky. Idli batter had be slightly thick compared to dosa batter. Rice should be ground to fine rava texture. Try using rock salt or kallu upp / kosher salt for fermenting. Hope this helps and get back after trying a batch. Thanks for visitng!
Thanks a lot..definitely will try and give you a feedback. .how long time the batter will take for fermentation under switched off preheated oven?I ground rice for more than 25 min..is it a reason for my sticky idli?
Valli,
I don’t know your location but if you live in India or tropical climate regions it will take 5-6 hours to ferment or even less if its too hot & humid – morning you grind and evening you will the batter ready! But on the other hand.. if you are from any cold area then in summer – soaking time 8 hours – grind, add salt and put in a warm place like microwave or even plain oven it should ferment the next morning.
In winter its a different story – soak for 8 hours- grind, add salt and then put in (preheated& switched off) warm oven it may takes 10 hours to ferment.
Rice grinding should be done within 15 minutes in a stone grinder to get fine rava texture – Urad dal with water should take only 20 minutes to fluff up. Do not grind urad dal for long time it will make the batter sticky. Again all this measure, time depends on the quality of urad dal & rice, how good your wet grinder stones look, temperature etc. You will have to figure out the best with few trials. Even I get to mess up sometimes as I don’t get the same quality or brands from Indian stores. I will try to update soon with exact measurements of water and time!
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How about grinding the batter in a mixie? I’m traveling abroad soon and would only be able to carry a mixie with me…
Hi,
For the commercial purpose :
after packing the idly batter, the packet batter gets fluffy very soon..due to quick fermentation. share the tips to get delay in fermenting and packet not to get fluffy atleast for 2 days.
Plz i expect the tips shortly
Thanks
Sherin
Hi shireen,
Did you get the reply to your query cos even i am facing the same problem.it would be great if you can share the same with me.
Thanks n regards
Sujata
Hi Sujata,
I don’t know about commercial packing and cannot guarantee anything on that but at home I follow these simple steps.
After you grind, store in refrigerator, put a green chili and store in the inner most part of the refrigerator. This is delay the fermentation process.
To speed up the fermentation, add a dry red chilli….
These tips are from my mother in law and we do this all time at home and it works. I don’t know the science behind it but it works! Try and let me know. Thanks.
You can keep banana leaves with trunk with the batter while it’s fermenting.
Hi. By mistake I mixed both rice and urud dal together before soaking. Will soaking this mixture and making batter will cause any health problem?
I used to get soft idlis always (using idli rawa) in the proportion of 3:1 (rawa: udad dal) I also used to add all those poha n methi stuff…then from past 3 times, my batter does not ferment only!! Its summer!!
Also when I use that unfermented kind of batter to make idlis, it is just flat in the pan after steaming and hard…..PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!
hi mullai, ur suggestions are very helpful. thanks
due to my work and long distance driving, i dont get enough time to soak the rice and dal and grind it next day. can i make a DRY grind of the idli rice and urad dal and make it into powder. can i just add water to the powder mixture and soak it overnight and use it to make idli’s ?
thanks
hi,
thia is pranita and i used basmati rice from costco for dosa batter but it is not coming out good and ratio to urad dal is 3:1 plz help
i forget to add salt in dosa batter.dosa was not crispy.is salt necessary to add
hi mullai,
I followed ur instructions for the idli dosa batter. It has always come out very well but for the past 3-4 times, my idlis do not come out fluffy. They turn out very flat upon steaming. Kindly advice where am i going wrong.
Thanks
hi shalini
 yes, if we do not mix the batter after fermentation, spongy bubbles will help us get fluffy idlis only for the first couple of times. becoz when we keep rice and urad dal. after fermentation, urad dal is heavy,so its on top, it helps the idlis to puff, so as the batter gets reduced, at the bottom, only we have rice batter left, which will make both idlis and dosa hard and taste bland.
 i always mix the batter right away after fermentation, but very gently,..just to make sure both idl and urad dal and mixed from top to bottom..but i would not stir so hard. i will mix genty 3-4 times. i get fluffy idlis every time i make it,also dosais..hope it helps.
Dear Gayu, I mix the batter too but not very hard. The problem is that the batter on on top feels like foam rather than having an urad dal consistency, very posai posai. Even after mixing, it feels like semi foam. Kindly advice if i am putting more quantities of something or wat.
thnkssss a tonnnn
hey shalini
i saw this post after a longtime since it was posted. if the top portion is foamy,the reason could be 'more water'.if you add more water than what is necessary,it gets foamy..and when u steam, idlis get flattened also with a bad taste. next time try reducing the quantity of water. for urad dal- while grinding add 2 cups of water. for rice add 1-1 1/2 cup of water. hope it helps again!
Hi,
thanks so much for this enlightening recipe… will surely try it out… Can u tell me the approx quantity of idlis ur recipe yields??
thanx
Hi,
By mistake i have added excess of salt in Dosa flour can you please tell me how to remoe that excess salt?Batter is too salty
grind more dosa batter and add it to the existing one
Hi,
Here is my method of preparing Idly or Dosa batter. I am using 3cups of Idly rice and 3 cups of Jasmine Rice(I bought in Costco) and 1/2 cup of Urad Dhal(actually it is whole white “Jayam” brand Urad Dhal that i bought from India, may b the quantity should b increased when we use the Urad Dhal that we buy here)and 1tsp of Methi seeds. Soak everything seperately for around 8hrs. Grind the Urad Dhal for 40mins. Grind Rice for 25mins along with Methi seeds. Add salt and ferment the batter. The Idly is really soft and Dosa is also very crispy.
Hi,
Today I have used basmati rice 1 cup, 1/3 cup urad dal and 2 tablespoons of poha + 2 tablespoons of cooked rice as was mentioned in a recipe book. I soaked them in plenty of water and ground them to near fine paste and have left them in the oven with oven light on. Will this work? I want to make crisp dosas. If not what is the best way to make crisp dosas? My problem is that usually my dosas stick to the pan and refuse to come out. What can i do about this?
thanks heaps,
Shina
hi,
   To make crisp dosa , one way is to add rava just before u make dosa or while grinding rice just add some cooked left over rice n if u feel that the dosa is sticking to the pan , the prob wud be that ur adding too much of water or there is some prob with ur pan. never use ur dosa pan for any other frying purpose. If its still sticking sprinkle some salt over hot tava n rub with tissue paper, may be this wud help u .
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Ananthi Karthikeyan Hi shina, If your dosa stick to the pan then try the following method. It is very useful, easy and proven method. My mother gave this idea and i always use this and it works. Before you pour the dosa mix in the pan, cut an onion and rub it in the pan. make sure you cover all the area of the pan. Then try to make dosa, it won't stick in the pan.
Thank you so much! After fighting with my dosai, and winding up with pieces, I tried to onion method – it worked perfectly. Thanks to your mom.
Hey thanx for your nice tips. Itz very useful. After seeing your tips im able to make soft idlies. Can i know how to make khusboo idlies?
Hi Mullai,
I have going thru your forum and have got some interesting tips.
I recently bought dosa flour form Indian grocery store to prepare dosai, do you have nay idea how to prepare dosa batter with this flour.
Also as u know its difficult to get the idli rice from indian grocery store, i ahve few options with me, can u help me with those:
1. Can i use idli rava flour instead of idli rice and grind urad dal separately and mix the paste with the flour?
2. Can u suggest me in san fransico or south bay, where can i get the idli rice or par boiled rice or raw rice?
3. Which rice(raw or parboiled rice) is best to prepare dosai as i have preethi mixer?
Regards
Arthi
Arthi, ready made dosa flour mostly is a cobination of maida and rice flour. Each brand is different and comes in handy but taste and texture wise would never recommend those. This forum topic and few other idli dosa recipes under our site have bunch of info on idli rava and other related tips. Pls use the search and navigate. Swad, Dakshin, lakshmi are the most sort brands for par or raw rice. Thanks.
Hi
U can use idli rava for making hotel like idli’s but for dosa the consistency is not that gud.
U can grind urad dal in mixie and mix with the idli rava (3:1 proportion of idli rice:urad dal)
u shld pour sufficient amt of water when u mix the idli rava and urad dal to make to batter .
Hi all,
I got a bag of Enriched Parboiled rice (thinking it was normal boiled rice).. This came out as a paste while grinding. So wasted whole 8 cups of rice .
Has anyone used this rice? Please let me know.
Thanks.
For all those who are stuck with sticky batter which is of paste consistency, try this-
Mix same amount of raw ponni rice batter as the amount of rice taken to make the dosa/idli matter… It works most times and gives great results.
Tip- Try with a small quantity
1 cup raw rice
1 cup parboiled rice
0.25 cup urad dal
Even i have tried using enriched parbolied rice and came out to be failure only..
so started using idli rava for idli.
Hi Mullai… Can you please let us all know if the Par-boiled rice from non-Indian stores are good enough for making idli/dosa?
Thanks in advance.
Raech
Hi Raech even I am not getting idly rice anymore from Indian groceries. Recently I purchased Parboiled Basmati Rice and tried making idli and dosas. Came out really well. Made no difference. Hope this helps.
Thanks Surekha… Can you pleaselet me know th proportions?
Hi Raech I use 4:1. Rice 4 cups and Urad dhall 1 cup with little methi seeds. While grinding Urad dhall don't add too much water. If u get the consistency of the dough right everything will come out perfectly well. Have a good one.
Did you not add raw rice at all? Also where did you buy parboiled basmati rice?
I don't add raw rice. Initially for 3 days I make idli's and from 4th day start making dosas. I got this from Indian store. I have seen some parboiled rice in stop and shop also.
Dear MULLAI,
Plz let us how to make IDLI a saleable product and earn livelihood from it. How we make it good ( maximum how many days it is good to sell in the market).
Thanks,
Sandeep Singh
Dear sandeeph singh, idli tastes good only if its eaten fresh. It becomes hard when frozen or kept in fridge and it cannot be thawed.. meaning idli batter can stay in fridge for a week long if put in coldest temperature but not idlis.
hi mullai nowadays iam not getting idly rice i want to know which rice to use for idly.
Radhika, try with boiled rice (puzhangal arisi), thats the only solution if you dont get par-boiled.
Par-boiled vs Boiled Rice vs Puzhungal Rice vs Idli Rice what is the difference?
My understanding is Idli Rice is Par-boiled rice and Puzhungal rice is Boiled Rice.
Yes, you are right! You can read about the difference in the post! Thanks for visiting.
Mullai ma’am, the uradal you have mentioned here is whole uradal (without skin) or split uradal(black ulundu with skin) Usually i use Whole urad without skin. Pls let me know.
Have a great day
Hi Cap, you can use even type, whole or split with or without skin. Its still the same proportion, skin type involves lot of rinsing and cleaning. So pick the one which is easier for you. thanks.
Has any one tried making idli batter with long grain rice, do share the proportion of long grain rice and urad dal.
i tried making idli batter with long grain rice with same proportion(4:1). the batter looked perfect. but idlis dnt turn out well. it was too sticky and stayed as if it was undercooked.even dosa was not ok, dnt turn brown and crispy at all.
meena, im not sure wat long grain u ve mentioned, i tried with american long grain rice, available in uk markets. if any one has sucessfully tried with the same pls share the tips.
Yeah keerthi, i tried with american long grain rice bought from walmart, the texture of idli never matched our indian idli rice…….
hi friends,
the ratio of 4:1 rice:urad da promises you with a soft idlies. Indian wet grinders will give the best results compared to blenders and mixers.
few tips:
1. grind urad dal first. soak with fenugreek seeds in cold water, put it in the fridge, soaking the urad dal for about 45 mts would suffice. while grinding use ice cold water this enhances the fluffy flour. do not add water in one shot. Initially add considerable amount water to the dal so that grinder is not stuck,constantly every 5 mts add little amount of water to the dal while grinding, grind till the yellow color of the dal turns white and when the grinder is stopped you get air bubble in the batter. Air bubble indicates the fluffiness.
2. rice needs to be soaked for minimum 4 hrs.
mixing both together with enough salt and allow it to ferment for 16 – 18 hrs depending upon the room temperature, refridgerate in smaller boxes(1 box should suffice 2 breakfasts or dinners).
Though you mix the idli dosa batter uniformly with salt, the batter removed from the top of the mix is generally preferred for idlis, as you go down rice qty would be more so dosas are fine with this.
we add 1/2 cup of raw rice to idli rice while grinding, this gives brown color to dosa.
regards
dblakshmi
for khosbu idli plumpy idli they use to add kotai mutu that is avaliable in india add only 2-3 like fenugrrek get plumpy soft idli
Hi Mullai,
Thanks for your tips and thanks to all for good discussion.
But pleaase give me a tip to get softer idlies if u use idli ravva instead of rice
Thanks
Hi,
i tried making idlies using parboiled rice which i bought in grocery store (golden canilla enriched long grain parboiled rice). now am tired after being tried for several times. i tried 1:3 and 1:5 proportion. wen i put the batter in dosa pan it turned out to be very soft and doesnt come out from pan. the same thing happens for idli also. i just want to make use of my 20lb parboiled rice. any suggestions?
Hi Kutti,
I also brought 25lb Parboiled rice substuting Idly Rice. The first time i tried doing Idly in the ratio of 4:1 (Parboiledrice: Urad Dhal) it dint come well. Now i am using the Parboiled rice as boiled rice for meals. Its ok . But i am planning to try preparing idly dough in the ratio of adding Raw Rice:Parboiled Rice: urad dhal(2:2:1)
i would like to know how to store idli batter made in excess. i have stored in 3 containers. the one tht i’l use tomorow , i have put in oven for fermenting. wht abt the other 2 ? do i simply refrigerate them without fermenting? or shud i freeze them ?
or is it a better idea to ferment all 3 n freeze the batter of the 2 containers after fermentation? also by these methods , how long wil the batter last? kindly reply at the earliest !
Mullai, Thanks for the tips. I like to add one more tip to Idli Dosa batter.
When making dosa batter soak couple table spoon of channa dal along with rice. I mean the dal which we use to prepare paruppu vadai/ Masala Vadai. This will give nice brown dosa like the one we get in hotels. If you forgot to soak add besan flour at the finishing stage of grinding process. I got this tip from one of the Dosa Specialist. VIJI
Hi Mullai,
Huray!!! I tried your mouth-watery receipe fpr the first time.Its a big hit!! I tried ur famous Chicken Salna..It waz supposed to be a side for my rotis..But eventually it tuk over and ended up being a main dish..
It waz really nice..and vry tasty..
Thanks for all those recipes.
Rohini
While the batter is fermenting in the oven do not open the oven door to check if the batter has fermemted multiple times.
After you put the batter in the oven after preheating, do not open the oven for 6-8 hours. If opened before the batter wont ferment since the oven loses its temperature.
Do not soak rice/dhal in ice cold water which will delay the soaking process.
One more thing i would like to add is the water to urad dhal ratio should be 3:1…..soak 1 cup of urad dhal in 3 cups of water and use all this water for grinding the dhal….
For making just dosais, grind soaked urad dal first for 15 minutes, then add soaked rice along the urad dal grind both together..this version go well for making dosais, as we r all fan’s of dosai,i do as though..
Fenugreek seeds yield soft idlies. I would also like to add that if you dont use fenugreek seeds the dosa’s will be white in color. It wont brown like normal dosas do.
Mullai,
You have suggested to place the batter in the oven heated to 400 degrees.I have a small doubt,wont that heat cook up the batter?
Sworna,
It wont cook the batter. You are just preheating the oven to 400 degress and switching off after preheated. The temperature reduces gradually when the flour is kept in the oven, and maintains a uniform temperature which aids in the fermantation of the batter. This is to simulate the climatic condition in India.
Only if you continue to keep the oven in 400 for 30 minutes will it cook the batter.
Hope this helps.
thanx abhi.i'll try it today.
Thanks to Abi, hope this helps Sworna.
Mullai,
Nice tips and detailed explanation of each step. Idly e pannadhavangalukku kooda idly panna thonum.
My mom says if we grind rice first in the grinder and then grind urad dhal, urad dhal wont grind properly. So I always grind urad dhal first.
Hi Mullai,
Atlast i got my measurements for Idli mavu..
I dnt have fennugreek but fenugreek powder..Is that fine to add 2tsp – fennugreek powder wth urad dal while grinding..
Please advice.
Thanks
Ron
Rohini,
Raw fenugreek seeds has the aid to attract wild yeast from air to ferment the batter. Whereas the store powder is made after dry roasting the seeds and cannot do the same job. Its ok if you dont include but preferred for good results. Try a batch and let me know.
 Thankyou Mullai..
 Let me try out without fennugreek and let you know abt it..
 Thanks a lot again .For the advice.